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Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Quarry

Postby randolph » Sun May 06, 2012 5:48 pm


Overview thread:
Battle thread:


6 frames (22 systems), 2 stations / 7 IPA (Initiative Per Asset)
Commander: MittenNinja

Grand Naga 1: d6Rd d6Rd , d6Rh d6Rh , d6B , d6G , d6W , d6W
Grand Naga 2: d6Rd d6Rd , d6Rh d6Rh , d6B , d6G , d6W , d6W
Uri Reed's Naga: d6Rh d6Rh , d8Rh , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr
"Fat Snake" Chub 1: d6Rd d6Rd , d6Rd d6Rh , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8Rr
"Fat Snake" Chub 2: d6Rd d6Rd , d6Rd d6Rh , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8Rr
Spitting Dragon: d6Ra d6Ra , d8Ra , d6Y , d6Y , d6W , d6W



6 frames (23 systems), 2 stations / 6 IPA
Commander: calculus

Shepard: d6Ra d6Rd , d6Y , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W
Russian: d6Ra d6Rd , d6Y , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W
Boxer: d6Ra d6Rd , d6Y , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W
Tomahawk: d6Ra d6Rd , d6Y , d6Y , d6W , d6W
Hacksaw: d6Rh d6Rh , d6Y , d6B , d6G , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr
Shiv: d6Y , d6Y , d6B , d6G , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr d8Rr



7 frames (27 systems), 2 stations / 3 IPA
Commander: FerrelFerret

Locust Alpha: d6Rh d6Rh , d8Rh , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr
Locust Bravo: d6Rh d6Rh , d8Rh , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr
Locust Delta: d6Rh d6Rh , d8Rh , d6Y , d6B , d6W , d6W + d8G d8Rr
Ice Golem: d6Rd d6Rd , d6Rd d6Rh , d6B , d6B , d6W , d6W
Roadblock: d6Rd d6Rd , d8Rd , d6B , d6B , d6W , d6W
Longbow: d6Ra d6Ra , d8Ra , d6B , d6G , d6W , d6W
Control: d6Rh d6Rh , d6Y , d6Y , d6W , d6W + d8G

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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby randolph » Sun May 06, 2012 6:01 pm


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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Forged » Tue May 08, 2012 11:01 am

I'm interested in the way they are deploying, Calculus seems to be sticking strictly to cover, while FerrelFerret is massing his troops in the open.

MittenNinja's placement of his objectives let him keep his back to the wall so to speak, but there are 2 hexes that people could put mechs in that are "behind" him.

Lastly, the "ring of cover" I put into the center is still unused. Is it too obvious? Or did it's location in the center seem to risky?
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Ced23Ric » Tue May 08, 2012 12:16 pm

Calculus will most likely shell targets of opportunity, spot the hell out of both and stay down there, cleaning the table, but moving in for Mittens stations. He has firepower at any range, and prefers artillery. Melee protects artillery or runs for forlorn stations. Calculus brings to most iffy-to-fight company to the game, being able to dish out damage long before his targets can fire back. Having 4 Ra platforms gives him the option to shell many targets or focus-fire one and with those spots, he can also bring it down for sure.

Mittens doesn't have that much artillery, so he will probably guard his stations with the spot/Ra 'Frame, while the rest of the Adders await ferrets crew. Potentially, he could desert his position entirely, make a run for calculus, while calculus shells away, so Mittens can drop DF system to receive d8G. It doesn't look good for him. But he only needs to survive to win. Tough.

Ferret has the biggest force. If he splits, he might not be able to survive Mittens' defenders. If he doesn't, calculus might just win by obliberating Mittens and snatching ferrets stations in the rear, because as soon as ferret and Mittens have lost their Ra 'Frames, calculus is free to shoot their companies without backlash.

Curious how it'll go down. So far, I put two peaches on calculus. It'll come down to asset value/doomsday clock management.
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Forged » Thu May 10, 2012 12:00 pm

Deployment is now finished, feel free to speculate to your hearts content!
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Ced23Ric » Thu May 10, 2012 12:43 pm

*points up* ^^
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby calculus » Thu May 10, 2012 2:53 pm

Right now my money is on Ferret. MittenNinja has split his forces, and seems to be going to war with two players simultaneously.

The likely result of the next two turns will be MittenNinja loosing two frames in the south, and possibly one in the north. He's certain to lose one station, and might loose the other. Calculus is likely to loose a frame.

This would put MittenNinja in last place, behind Ferret in initive, with no way to move back ahead - he can't regain frames, he can't retake his old stations if Ferret is sweeping down through them, and he's outnumbered on taking Calculus' stations. This two front war is setup to destroy MittenNinja.

Ferret though, can move the biggest force on the map, completly intact, down through the green stations, and onwards.
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby calculus » Thu May 10, 2012 3:12 pm

In a three player game, combat is generally bad for you - your forces will be taking a one way trip down getting weaker street. The defender, especially, wants to avoid combat, because his frames are worth a huge number of points.

The attackers chief disadvantage is that he is forced into combat and forced to initiate combat. Otherwise a three player game would be all about everyone hiding in the corner.

So for the defender to voluntarily to throw aways his frames and stations with the goal of hurting someone who gets hurt less points than he does on losses, against unfavorable combat odds, is suicidal.
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby randolph » Thu May 10, 2012 7:40 pm

What's interesting to me is that d6Y is less advantageous in a 3+ player game than in a 2-player game - because unless you're constantly in a super-strong position, you're going to be benefiting from Opponent A's spots on Opponent B, and Opponent B's spots on Opponent A. It's still strong to dictate spot targets by having your own spotters, but there's room for opportunism here.

I also notice that this is a very spread out engagement, with only one artillery unit per company except for Red.

Five peaches on calculus.

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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Dukayn » Thu May 10, 2012 11:03 pm

I physically cringed at that Naga's set of rolls. Poor Mittens.
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby MittenNinja » Thu May 10, 2012 11:08 pm


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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Ced23Ric » Fri May 11, 2012 4:15 am

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Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Quarry

Postby Forged » Fri May 11, 2012 9:51 am

Replace forged with ferrelferret! I'm the eye on the sky not the fighter!

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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby addking » Fri May 11, 2012 2:38 pm

I'm enjoying watching this go down.

Since this is sorta for all to watch, newbie question: why wouldn't Mittens try and down the doomsday clock a notch on his first go?
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Mantisking » Fri May 11, 2012 2:45 pm



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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

Postby Ced23Ric » Fri May 11, 2012 3:31 pm

Yeah, Mittens will want to race that DDC like it's a sportscar.
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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

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Re: Armchair Strategizing/Betting: The Battle of Hogland Qua

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