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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Goober » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:09 pm

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:28 pm

And nothing to fight for? Nothing to spend their earnings on?
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby C_L » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:46 am

Their spendings are purely survival-based; making any money off of non-contract based jobs is REALLY hard to do, and affording Gate Travel is pretty expensive, so...

But no, they don't particularly have any real motivations other than survival.
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby ShortenWeaponry » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:10 pm

My mercenary teams fight for money. That's their job. If they haven't done it they would get fired. The station which is their base has many places where they could spend their money.
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:25 pm

You guys can take my editorial comment in whatever way you like. This is it:

"Trite and boring."
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby jadefalcon777 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:55 am

I will say there's certainly a dearth of convincing AND interesting mercenaries in fiction. Some of the other posters touched on how romanticized the notion is in fiction, but I can't think of many sources that even touch the whole supply/materiels thing, let alone motivation besides 'generic money-grubber.'
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby XGundam05 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:14 am

If I might suggest some inspirational material, which may or may not fit:
Viper's Creed - good for ideas on motivations
Dirty Dozen - not mercenaries, but has interesting characters, group dynamics and is a good film
Warbreaker - by Brandon Sanderson, for the mercenary trio
Kelly's Heroes - okay, this one doesn't quite fit, but it's hilarious and the tank group is awesome
- "I will not die here / I still have too much to do / And too much ammo" ~ Zer0
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Ryujin » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:57 pm

Arguably, the iconic sci-fi mercenary trifecta are:

Jerry Pournelle's John Christian Falkenberg (Falkenberg's Legion/Codominium/Empire of Man)
David Drake's Alois Hammer (Hammer's Slammers)
Gordon R. Dickson's Donal Graeme (Dorsai!/Childe Cycle)

It's worth reading all the material associated with these three characters. They, to say the least, present viewpoints from different societal strata regarding mercenaries. It's also worth noting that all three authors have actually been in the thick of it, so to speak, for their particular generation.
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Soren » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:53 am

I worked on the setting and mecha design, but my opinions are personal. I am not the .
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby C_L » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:45 am

Anything from the Hammer's Slammers setting is excellent. Will have to check out Sanderson's work there, too; he's quite good.

And yes, my Merc Company has only some interesting personality to make them likable; other than that, I'd just rely on the setting and the conflicts around them to provide them with any depth.
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Zero Revenge » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:26 pm

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http://mfzarcadia.wordpress.com/ - Keep up to date on the War for Arcadia
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Soren » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:40 pm

I worked on the setting and mecha design, but my opinions are personal. I am not the .
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:32 pm

And let's not forget the Kumen Jungle season (season 2) of VOTOMS. The "neccessity" argument is best given a) TO mercenaries, who want to survive the day, get paid, and go home to their families who will be protected from oppression by your money, and b) BY statist individuals looking to make a name for themselves, obvious atrocities be damned.

"I just do it for the money" is the core reason anyone does anything in the Solar Calendar. It just always has interesting implications. Ijad community self-reliance (Bhadal) has to do with not wanting to be beholden to anyone else's bribery or withholding, lest it affect one's ability to feed one's kids. The Free Colonies' federation has to do with being able to meaningfully participate in the galactic economy such that they can feed their kids. The SU's expansion has to do with gaining enough of an income as a civilization that it can feed its kids.

"For the money" means you want to spend it on something. Even if you're just spending it on very fine hats (see: Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, Conan), then it still has a personal and social impact, such as cheesing off someone wealthy enough that they'll retain Pinkertons at great expence to chase you to Bolivia, or sacrifice you, your friends, or a duped princess to their snake god.
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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby gatlinggouf927 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:32 am

I came from the bottom, now I made it to the top. Newtype flow I'm the hottest on the block. Somebody tell these haters that I'm never gonna stop. Till I kill em all like a colony drop. I'm yellin out Sieg Zeon, Sieg Zeon

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby thunderclam » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:25 pm

So if one were to write an MFZ novel that featured a mercenary group...

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Re: Questions about Companies, Mercenaries, and so on.

Postby Joshua A.C. Newman » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:47 pm

... then they'd better care about something, cuz "money" is a boiled turd of a motivation. Hence, my editorial comment above.
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