Re: The Background Thus Far

Are Ijad a spiritual/philosophical movement more akin to Buddhism/Shintoatoism or a literal, "God wants it this Way!" sorta thing?
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Wadmaasi wrote:MittenNinja wrote:If the SU can beat out the resistance they will have enough materials to supply expeditions to numerous other galaxies.
Uhhh...hey, boss? Galaxies are big. Big. Inconceivably so,
Also, I'm stumbling a bit over the fact that the SU abandons colonies when the ROI dips too low...but these self-same colonies can immediately begin to recruit, train, pay, and arm militias. For every colony/cell/unit that rebels and joins The Movement, likely another says, "F U homeslice, loyalty to Mother Terra > all.
Wadmaasi wrote:MittenNinja wrote:If the SU can beat out the resistance they will have enough materials to supply expeditions to numerous other galaxies.
Uhhh...hey, boss? Galaxies are big. Big. Inconceivably so,
Also, I'm stumbling a bit over the fact that the SU abandons colonies when the ROI dips too low...but these self-same colonies can immediately begin to recruit, train, pay, and arm militias. For every colony/cell/unit that rebels and joins The Movement, likely another says, "F U homeslice, loyalty to Mother Terra > all.
MittenNinja wrote:Think of the American Colonies during the war of independence. Those militia were not well payed, trained, or armed. They are out manned, out gunned, and the only thing holding them on the battle lines is the desire to be free. Such is the life of a resistance member.
Soren wrote:Mm, the Colonial militias also broke and ran from battle fairly frequently. That's the problem - eventually, you need a regular army that reliably fights when and where you tell it to, and that means you need a government that is (hopefully) accountable to more than one person.
Soren wrote:Mm, the Colonial militias also broke and ran from battle fairly frequently. That's the problem - eventually, you need a regular army that reliably fights when and where you tell it to, and that means you need a government that is (hopefully) accountable to more than one person.
Soren wrote:Mm, the Colonial militias also broke and ran from battle fairly frequently. That's the problem - eventually, you need a regular army that reliably fights when and where you tell it to, and that means you need a government that is (hopefully) accountable to more than one person.
MittenNinja wrote:In all seriousness though, this is why a long term unified resistance would be pretty rare. The SU would have either have to done something to the colonists that they see as irrevocably wrong to make them unite to fend them off, or there would have to be strong leadership behind the resistance, being able to keep their morale and devotion stout.
I see a good chuck of the colonies that choose to resist initially getting flattened pretty quickly.
Wadmaasi wrote:Are Ijad a spiritual/philosophical movement more akin to Buddhism/Shintoatoism or a literal, "God wants it this Way!" sorta thing?
MittenNinja wrote:In all seriousness though, this is why a long term unified resistance would be pretty rare. The SU would have either have to done something to the colonists that they see as irrevocably wrong to make them unite to fend them off, or there would have to be strong leadership behind the resistance, being able to keep their morale and devotion stout.
MittenNinja wrote: In all seriousness though, this is why a long term unified resistance would be pretty rare. The SU would have either have to done something to the colonists that they see as irrevocably wrong to make them unite to fend them off, or there would have to be strong leadership behind the resistance, being able to keep their morale and devotion stout.
Mantisking wrote:This reminds me of The Man Who Never Missed series.
Mantisking wrote:This reminds me of The Man Who Never Missed series.
goldenmeanie wrote:I really enjoyed those books!
goldenmeanie wrote:MFØ has me thinking of Richard K. Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs trilogy a lot. The books tackle the expensive transport problem differently, but the politics of the series seem compatible. If you haven't read them, check them out!
Soren wrote:The Mockingbird Regiment's last stand at Amritsar doesn't have much in common with Serpent Legion raids on rebel mining towns in the Orion outback, the Sisters of the Dreaming Blade don't torture civilians for information like the Armored of God, and nobody would confuse the Janus Battalion for those Cerafi maniacs who gassed Amelia Side.
Zero Revenge wrote:Woah, whole colonies being gassed? Wooooaaaaah. How did I miss that one?
Zero Revenge wrote:What's the story behind that? O___o Who are all these lovely subfactions/squads?
This did not sit well with the Ijad-indoctrinated local populations under such control. In SC 0240, a UMFL company arrested the popular mayor of the town of Quall for refusing to sell their exports at the SU market price. The subsequent riot ended abruptly when eight mobile frames, built from labor frame parts and painted in matching orange colors, engaged the unprepared Legionnaires in a high-speed, running battle through the streets of Quall. Despite the loss of two of the colonists' frames, the Legionnaires present were all killed or imprisoned in the town jail. Quall is now considered the first appearance of the Free Colonies movement.
Seeing the successes of the Free Colonies (and its discussions of federation) as further expansion of their enemies, many of the Ijad now see no distinction between the Free Colonies and the Solar Union. Those agreeing with the principle now seek to counter, using the now well-understood technologies of the stargates and mobile frame to begin their own expansion, forcing back those who would rule them from afar.
This is in parenthesis making sound like a minor, sub-point, as to why the Ijad oppose the Free Colonies. I don't even see why the talk of federation would put off the Ijad. The idea of federalism is that local authorities only give a very small portion of power to a central authority which is actually made up of people from your local political units. The Ijad seem to be more opposed to a dictatorship or fascist government where all power is usurped by a central authority. Maybe the Ijad are just so anti-central-authority that even the idea of federalism is blasphemy.... still it's pointed out as a minor reason and not the main reason.(and its discussions of federation)