MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

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MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:15 pm

There was post in the Facebook MFZ group a while back (EDIT: The reason I couldn't find the original posted question on Facebook was because it was over on the MFZ G+ Community) where someone asked if they could play by just buying one set, something simple like 6177. For some reason this stuck in my head and I started asking myself, "What could you do with a single 6177 set? Could you really make something you could play with that wasn't just a rectangular stack of bricks? Would there be enough bricks to make a enough frames for a couple of companies?"

Here's what I came up with:

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ST-6177a 'High Head'
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d6W d6W d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd d6G (dual pistols, jump jets)
d6W d6W d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd d6Y d6Y (rifle w/ sight, dual sensor pods)
d6W d6W d6Rh d6Rh d8Rh d6B (longsword + shield spikes, shield)

ST-6177b 'No Neck'
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ST-6177c 'Dart Frog"
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Scramblers, ST-6177d 'Mega-Quad'
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Trucks, Tank
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Surprisingly pleased how these turned out.

6177 break out and parts distribution per frame above
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You can make 7 of the "High Heads" and still have bricks for stations and terrain. I found I was constantly running out of 1x3 bricks; they're in low qty's in 6177 and I seemed to need them in everything.

In summary, I guess you can play for $30 with one 6177 set.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby milt69466 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:24 pm

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This is way too cool. first c6, then dublo, and now this?
This is probably one of the best uses of standard bricks i've ever seen.
now I need to find my jaw

the high heads are my fave

the tank is sweet too.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby Mantisking » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:07 am

"No, no, no, no, no. I said Dart Frog."

:lol:

As always, great job. How solid are the connections? Would these be good for kids who are "too old" for the Duplo builds?
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:06 am

Mantisking wrote:As always, great job. How solid are the connections? Would these be good for kids who are "too old" for the Duplo builds?

Thanks!

The High Head is a bit weak where the top of the 1x3 'waist' connects to the front 2x3 in the bottom of the chest/torso. This is easily remedied with a 1x2 across the 1x1 and the bottom center of the 2x3 on the back (I didn't like the look of it, but for playability as a game piece it's an easy compromise). They're VERY solid with this mod.

The No Neck is reasonably solid as is, but it really needs 1x3's for feet instead of 1x2's for stability if you attach systems to the back (shoulder guns and jetpack ala the yellow one) rather than the front (fore arm guns ala they red/blue one). There are a LOT more 1x2's than 1x3's in set 6177 which had some impact on what i ended up with.

The Dart Frog is more fragile. I was going for a chickenwalker of some kind to round out the usual suspects, but I'm sure it could be reworked to be more solid (square up the hips and use 1x4's instead of 1x3's for feet for a two stud connection).

The Mega-Quad is a tank and the Scramblers are made solid by the 2x4 black brick underneath which they rest on.

The tank turret is not gravity proof, but it and the trucks are nigh solid blocks.

Durability: 9.5.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby ManufacturedGanesh » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:24 pm

Wow. You nailed the shaping on the scramblers. Love the no-necks and the tank.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby carpemortis » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:37 pm

They have great silhouettes, each nice and distinct. Enough shaping to evoke the imagination, and enough articulation to be useful. Reminds me of playing Combat on the Atari. It's like you've distilled the essence of a frame into an 8-Bit sprite :D
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:18 pm

carpemortis wrote:It's like you've distilled the essence of a frame into an 8-Bit sprite

Funny you should say that. I actually used this method to pixelate some pics of frames for inspiration. The No Neck was the result of a pixelated pic of a plain Conscript.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby FlakManiak » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:12 pm

Awesome work! While my personal builds might be more on the fiddly joints and fancy parts side myself, mad respect to anyone who uses C6/Duplo/basic bricks. These designs really capture the essence.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby MakeItTrizzle » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:29 pm

I like it. It's like 8-bit MFZ. Would definitely be a good way to get into the game easily if you were attracted to the rule set.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby mraichelson » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:49 pm

A- these are awesome.

B- they totally help drive the point home that it's about imagination and interest not just an investment in fancy parts.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:43 pm

Thanks, all, for the kind words!

Something less 'primary'?
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Gen Erwin Rhombus "The Desert Box" in his custom ST-6177a "High Head"
d6W d6W d6Ra d6Ra d8Ra d6Y d6Y (sniper rifle with scope, dual sensor pods)
Cpt Rex Tangle and Lt Paral Lelogram in their soldier config'd ST-6177b "No Necks"
d6W d6W d6Rd d6Rd d6B d6Y d6G (forearm mounted assault rifle, pauldrons, comms pod, jumppack)

I had this little truck idea too.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby Mantisking » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:35 am

Brilliant. Blogged.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:46 am

Mantisking wrote:Brilliant. Blogged.

Cool! Thanks!
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby Mulambo » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:29 am

Ready to play with 100% 6177

With some 1x1, 2x1 and 3x1, respecting the color code and with a little imagination, it's nice and playable for very few money and you still got a lot of bricks left

I changed the legs design a bit. It fits easily in covers, is a little more sturdy (the legs still often falls when you take some systems off) and just a tiny bit less good looking.

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Back row
- d6B d6B d6Y d6Y d8Rr
- d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd d6B d6Y
- d6Ra d6Ra d8Ra d6Y d6Y

Front row
- d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd d6B d6G d8Rr
- d6Rh d6Rh d8Rh d6B d6G d8G
- d6Rd d6Rd d8Rd d6B d6G d8Rr

Thanks a lot for this idea and these super designs :mrgreen:
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby gusindor » Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:08 pm

Very cool, but you might want to put the d6Rh on the feet as kicking claws, on the head they don't make much sense.

Unless... are they horns, for head-butting? In which case awesome, forget the claws.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby Dukayn » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:02 pm

They could be shotguns, or any short-range weapon really.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:52 pm

Mulambo wrote:Thanks a lot for this idea and these super designs :mrgreen:

Welcome and thanks!

Those are pretty cool! I'd play against your company any day!

I like the color mapping for systems on these; it helps make the systems a bit more distinguishable. Might I suggest:
1x2 red bricks for d6Rh , 1x3 red bricks for d6Rd , 1x4 red bricks for d6Ra

I also have a couple ideas for those legs that may make them a bit more stable. I'll brick them up tonight and if they work I'll post pics.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby Mulambo » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:21 pm

gusindor wrote:Very cool, but you might want to put the d6Rh on the feet as kicking claws, on the head they don't make much sense.

Unless... are they horns, for head-butting? In which case awesome, forget the claws.


Yep, they're horns. But I finally made it another way.
Over the hips/head : Horns (like the whites or black)
Under the hips : Distance (Not presented there)
On the back : Artillery (like the orange one)

You just have to explain once, but you also often have to for regular design frames.
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby darksyntax » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:11 am

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ST-6177c II 'Bird', ST-6177c IIa 'Wide Bird', ST-6177c III 'Axe Beak'

I replaced the top 1x2 of the leg with a 1x1 and attach it to the outer tubes of the 2x4 (ST-6177c II 'Bird'). This was more stable, but the legs looked too close together so I tried a 2x6 (ST-6177c IIa 'Wide Bird'). Very stable and the legs looked better but the whole frame was a tad wide so I tried a 5 stud wide set up which required a 3 stud wide body. A 3 stud wide cockpit looked funny so 1 wide it was (named the ST-6177c III for the Axe Beak D&D monster).
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Re: MFZ - 6177 (Basic Bricks)

Postby VitorFaria » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:57 pm

Decided to necro this thread on the grounds that everyone needs to see this at least once. I suspect this will be a consensus.

This is what made the whole MF0 thing click for me and got me hooked into the hobby.
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